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Seussian Influence?

   Discussion: Seussian Influence?
Rich · 17 years, 5 months ago


I am new here, so I just wanted to say hi. I am a big fan of Seuss and I am in search of reasons for his continued influence and popularity.

Can anyone tell me what prompted Moxy Fruvous to perform "Green Eggs and Ham" ??

Can anyone tell me why the "Cat in the Hat" is still so engrained in our culture (or underculture)?

wild bill · 17 years, 5 months ago

I just joined the group! I'm studying early childhood education and I was wondering if I could get someone to write an essay for me or at least give me a lot of really interesting insights that I could use for an upcoming paper and not attribute to you. College these days is really quite hard. I had to study last week and it made my brain hurt. Seriously. It hurt. The only thing that I could do to make it stop was to drink a beer. That really didn't work so I followed the first beer with a second and then a third. I think you see where I'm going. After that, I forgot, like totally, that I had this paper I had to do. So, I figured I'd see if there were people on the internets that could help me with it.


PS. I figure Dr. Suess is still popular because he was a dr. and not some sort of fly by night namby pamby Phd-less children book writer. Or maybe it could be that not a lot of people were writing children's books at the time and that most of us grew up with parents who got the books because they were a. simple b. colorful and c. not filled with lots of grownup stuff that wouldn't be understood by a teething 1 year old. Then you grow up and you think, "wow, the dr. worked for me, bet it'd work for my kids"... and you go out and buy the book and read it to your kids. Hollywood goes, wow, this dr. guy is really popular because people go out and buy his books(they still go out and buy his books). So they greenlight big productions with Mike Myers and Jim Carey to go out and make atrocious movies "based" on the books. Based on the books because strangely enough, they don't have plots or characters that could support an hour and a half's worth of screen time. Why? Cause they're fucking kids books. (but what better way to service the next generation than by putting all children's books into movies, that way you don't have to bother with that whole pesky reading thing)
Rich Back · 17 years, 5 months ago

Well Bill,

You are right about me trying to get others insights, but way out on your judement about me and my study habits. First, I do not drink. Second, I take school very seriously. Three, I don't need anyone to do my school work for me, I have plenty of time to write my papers.

Seriously, I am interested in the popularity of Seuss. I guess you are not. Nobody asks you to be, and I hope you do not stick your children in front of a TV with any Mike Meyers movies! I certainly wouldn't do that to mine.

What I am interested in is MF, their influences,  their message to their listeners, and what their fans think about their message.

Thanks for your time!


Agent Scully Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
Aren't there abstracts on Dr Seuss and popular culture in your college library?

If you are writing a paper on Fruvous and Indie music in the mainstream, many of us would probably like to read it.
Rich Back · 17 years, 5 months ago

Yes there are lots of abstracts, and really cool articles in the library, but I like to get a variety of opinions.

So far I have concluded that most people either think of the "Grinch" cartoon when they here the words Dr. Seuss, indicating that Seuss's alliance with Chuck Jones was a strong boost to his popularity, or "Green Eggs and Ham." Recently the "SNAFU" cartoons were released which gave us all a look at the beginning of their relationship. (Those toons were designed for the troops fighting in WWII and were meant to train and entertain at the same time) I highly recommend that everyone get a copy of the "Uncensored SNAFU" dvd. The quality is good considering the toons are 50 plus years old. Suess was also a very political cartoonist during the war and many of his cartoons were published in "Judge Magazine" and can be found in a book called "Dr. Seuss Goes to War." The surprising thing to me is the widespread disapproval of the "Cat In The Hat" movie with Mike Meyers. It may be because his portrayal is to brash?? I am interested in the outcome of the new movie "Horton Hears a Who" scheduled for release next April and starring Jim Carrey. Even through all this it seems that "Green Eggs and Ham" using only 50 words, is still the favorite and most memorable of books and the most widely adapted by others. SO. . . thats why I posed the question here.

Hope ya'll dont think to hard about it, and I will share my thoughts on Indie music in the mainstream when I get it drafted (If ya want).

Have a nice day!

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
I'm a huge Chuck Jones fan. Now I'm not sure of the timing but When was Horton Hatches and Egg made? That was Jones' first adaptation of a Dr. Seuss book and one of the greatest cartoons ever made. It had me singing the Hut Sut Song as a kid.
Rich Back · 17 years, 5 months ago

The Chuck Jones animated adaptation of "Horton Hears a Who" came out in 1969. If you purchase the special edition of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" you will find that "Horton" is on that dvd. All the rest of Seuss's animated toons can be found on a dvd titled "Seuss Celebration." These were done by Fritz Freiling, another awsome Warner Bros artist. The "Complete Uncensored Private SNAFU" dvd is awsome and has many story lines written by Seuss with the animation done by Chuck Jones and Freiling, to name a few. . . but they are worth it if you are a Warner Bros fan!

BTW The latest news is that Indie is becoming mainstream . . . I beg to differ, there are many bands that still stand up for what Indie stands for (Freedom of speech, Freedom of thought, and Freedom from the oppressive rules that confine us all, just to name a few) I sense that some bands are getting a taste of the "All Mighty Dollar" and conforming to the mainstream sound. Just look at what happened to Green Day. They were totally against the commercialization of the music scene, yet they became the next "Hot Ticket" and soon they sold out. . . so what we really need is a reunion of Moxy Fruvous . . . to bring back the true meaning and ideals of Indie.

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
I just checked. Horton Hatches The Egg (1942) was directed by Bob Clampett. I don't feel as bad mixing him up with Jones as I would Freleng.
Rich Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
The "Horton Hears a Who" animated TV special was directed by Chuck Jones and was copyrighted 1969 and appeared on TV in 1970. The book was written and copyrighted in 1954. Dr. Seuss wrote other stories for magazines with Horton, but I am unaware of any other Horton cartoons. Where did you get the info? I would like to check into it. I got my info from 3 different sources that have the same info.
Rich Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
Sorry for the last post . . . I thought you were refering to "Horton Hears a Who" . . .  DUH! You are completely right. "Horton Hatches the Egg" is from 1942 and directed by Clampett. The book is from 1940. The other movie followed. I never saw "Horton Hatches the Egg" I am going to have to get it now. I love Clampetts fast paced "wacky" toons too. I agree he is a bit better at directing than Freleg. However, he does a good job with the seuss stuff. There are points where it seems like he's (or I'm)  having an acid flashback. Very good stuff.
Annika Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
Woah!  That's the first flame I've ever seen from you!
wild bill Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
Oh you're so new..
Annika Back · 17 years, 5 months ago

yeah.. I'm only 5 here.  Maybe I have just never noticed before.

wild bill · 17 years, 5 months ago
no just saying that the fruvous world used to include a lot more than just this group.. so yea.. 5 is a bit on the young side ;)
Annika Back · 17 years, 5 months ago

Yeah I'm one of those groupies of the groupies. =D

danced with Lazlo Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
I still have that tee shirt you made in my honor :)
Annika Back · 17 years, 5 months ago

Hahahaha!  That was fun!

I think I sent you one of the crappy pre-figuring out what I was doing ones too.  That's funny!  I think I still have one or two "I love Gella" shirts floating around.

Will work for anime Back · 17 years, 5 months ago
esp since the Hiatus started over six years ago....ah...thems were the days....*sigh*

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