bajesas save me?

What kind of anti-psychotic? If I know it, I'll tell you whether you want to avoid it.

Seroquel

GOOO! NO! I HATE that shit. It completely fucked my mind. Big no no.

but I'm only going to be taking a wee bit... and I only have a couple pills so I can change my mond and not have bought a lot of them.... he said it could make me feel weird.

That would be an understatement. It doesn't really make you sleep, it knocks you out and you wake up 10 hours later feeling even more exhausted. Your dreams get horrid, too. Whatever you do, don't take enough to get dependent. The withdrawal is worse than any other medication I've ever experienced. I ended up huddled in a corner for a full day, crying and screaming at the top of my lungs. It's not pretty.

*whimper*

now I don't know what to do....

I don't want to scare you or anything...I just really hate that stuff. I would ask for something else.

Zil, Paul says he was on it and it and trazodone were the only things that helped his insomnia a bit. Not a cure-all but it did help with his sleeping and he didn't seem to have any of these adverse effects zacques is talking about. Just to give you another perspective that's not so scary. He may write later if you're interested, ok?

If insomnia is the problem, I've heard only good things from several people about Ambien.

From what I hear even Ambien can get pretty addictive.

The suck of all stuff like that is if your insomnia is severe enough to need it you're pretty likely to become dependant because it's not just temporary insomnia. You never stop needing the help. I feel awful for people like Paul and Zil. :(

I used ambien for a while... it stopped working ... and then I needed more... and then... my "friends" started stealing it from me to snort it.

its not just insomnia... its like my mind wont stop. it. just. wont.

I'm interested, muchly. sanks. I needed a not so scary second opinion... which is not to say that i don't also appretiate Z's input as well.

Well, good luck. I hope it works better for you than it did for me.

I just know something needs to change... and he said this is our best chance for right now.

It's hard to say what meds will do to you specifically, I wouldn't worry about it, just take it and see how you feel.� Everyone's body chemistry varies, so you never know for sure how you're going to react to any medication until you try it.� Give it a month to get used to your body, and don't be worried about any changes in mood, thoughts, sleep patterns, etc. until the month is up.� By that point you'll know if it's right for you or not.�� I say give it a chance and see how it works for you personally.� I've had people tell me Paxil,� and Welbutrin (sp?) work wonderful, but neither worked for me.� So yeh,� everyone's different.

Hey Zil,

I know you don't really know me from Adam (Hartfield or otherwise), but not only have I had some personal experience with the drug agents you are talking about, but I have had considerable professional experience in diagnostic testing and psychopharmacological consultation in several different psychological treatment wards... both open and locked (but more of the latter, which does help to evaluate specific drug effects and interactions (precisely because it is closer to a lab setting - fewer uncontrolled potential contaminants). Most folks on FHDC don't know this, but I picked up the tag "ShrinkMan" shortly after taking medical leave after the fourth (and final) year of my Ph.D. in clinical psychology... I had finished all of the course work, but never finished my Dissertation (I did pick-up the Masters Degree in the interim though). I returned to working as a system technician and several of my co-workers gave me the handle.

I deeply appreciate Zacques sharing of his experiences with Seroquel, and I have known other folks who have had similar experiences with it (although the nightmare issues can occur with any drug that helps an individual sleep after extended periods of non-REM sleep, more on that in a moment). But this fact is not as much a function of the Seroquel as it is the nature of the wide variation of individual response to perscription drug (pretty much the reason why they are perscription, because the need for careful monitoring by professionals - I have a whole separate rant about these supposed "professionals", but that another issue!)

I have got to run at the moment, but I will pick this up a tad later...

8^)

I know you a bit. as I talk to andrea and she talks about you. sanks and I await the rest of your entry...

-zil