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Poll: Did your college professors give out review sheets?

All of them did 3 (9%)
Most of them did 4 (11%)
About half did 4 (11%)
Most didn't 12 (34%)
None of the did 5 (14%)
I haven't gone to college yet 2 (6%)
Are you paying us to help you with your job? 5 (14%)
   Discussion: Review Sheets
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 14 years, 4 months ago
Once again I want to pick your minds about college instruction. Did your college professors routinely give you review sheets for the tests? One of my students thinks i'm violating one of his fundemental rights because I don't give review sheets. None of my professors ever gave one out.
dave "buh" Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Oh, I thought you were talking about the sheets where we review the professor's performance...

I don't remember a professor ever giving out a review sheet for an exam, but plenty of times we were allowed to bring a single sheet of handwritten notes into the exam. Formulas and such.

(I was an English and Economics double major with some CS/Math/Stats courses)
danced with Lazlo Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
I thought the same thing. I responded that all of them did before reading further... in our college I think instructor review sheets were required.

But no, very few of my professors gave out review sheets for exams. Sometimes, if you don't know the material from attending class, you don't deserve to pass (depending on the class and the instructor of course) and if you can't think on your feet (or in your seat) then maybe you don't belong in college.
A girl named Becca Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
I occasionally was given review sheets, but not often. When I did get them, it was usually something like "your homework tonight is to write 3 potential essay questions for the exam" and then the prof. would compile those into a review sheet.
Jay Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Such things exist in the college world?
I can only see this appeasing those who are the just-tell-us-what-we-need-to-know-for-the-test types.. worst. students. evar. The closest thing I've ever had to "review" material was coming in the day before a huge science practical and reviewing all the models and material with other students.... and even then it was my own notes.

Review sheets should = book, lecture notes taken by the student, handouts during lecture.

just me .02
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Do you want to come to my class and tell them that? :
goovie is married! Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
that only happened for me once. psych 101. dr. manning gave us what was pretty much the entire final exam several weeks ahead of time so we could study it. so i did. and when the actual exam came, i finished the thing in like 10 minutes and she was actually surprised.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
My students would have been all confused if I did something like switch the numbers of two questions. Obviously your prof had similar experiences so was surprised you actually knew the material.
Rachel Marie aka RAI · 14 years, 4 months ago
I had a professor who gave review sheets with ten questions on them, and he told us that five of those questions would be on the test. So we had to review these ten questions, know the answers to them backwards and forwards to get a good grade on the test. And you know what? I actually LEARNED stuff that way. I learned the major points of the lectures he gave and actually could explain the finer points of them to other people (it's about sign langugae syntax, so you really don't want to hear about it). And even though this one class was EXTRORDINARILY boring (my prof was deaf and even though his signing was very lively, the interpreter had a voice that was droning... made you want to sleep SO BAD), I actually came out of it learning stuff.

Most of my other classes didn't have tests or did give out reivew sheets. But none of them were quite as effective as this one.
Bender · 14 years, 4 months ago
If I was in your class, I would tell the guy to grow up. If he wants to be coddled and spoonfed, he should go back to middle school.

This is big boy school.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Sexist! This is big boy and girl school.

If you were in my class you'd be the teacher's pet.
caroline: tired. · 14 years, 4 months ago
Ha. I'm the only one who hasn't gone to college. :)

That said, even I don't get review sheets anymore, and i'm 3 years short of college.
Talcott · 14 years, 4 months ago
I don't think I ever remember getting review sheets. Most of my classes had essays instead of tests though.

Still, how hard is it to know what to expect on a test?

You should tell the class that you're going to do review sheets, but photocopy the cover of their text book (if there is one), and pass that out.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
I should just print out some of these comments. It is good to know that I'm not the one being unreasonable.
renita · 14 years, 4 months ago
i have had a few profs provide sample exams, being exams from the previous term or whatever, and a solution sheet.

that way you can test yourself on comprehension and gauge approximately how well you know the material.

i appreciate it--but i would hardly expect a prof to supply one.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
I do, do that for the final and go over it in class. Finals are different, it has been a long time since they saw a lot of the material.
renita Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
!!!

okay, so this is for any and all tests?

see i was thinking midterms and finals. all the other tests i've ever had have had nothing of the sort.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Yes some students feel they need this for each and every test.
A girl named Becca Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Ditto. Of course, I don't think I ever had tests other than midterms and finals. Well, maybe in 100-level German....
renita Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
language classes, math, and some of the science classes i've taken have had regular tests.

but yah, being an artsier student, there're more written assignments than tests.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
I did so few papers in college. If we had computers then i wouldn't have been so adverse to them. I just hated the physical process of typing them up.
*joolee* · 14 years, 4 months ago
I got them from some history profs who would give a huge list of key terms/ideas that we should be concentrating on.

I think they are good to help people focus on a semester's worth of information.

I think a lot of my professors who would have given review sheets were the type who just gave us take home exams instead.

I luuuuv take home exams.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 4 months ago

i'm a freshman in college and i've only gotten one in Arabic class.  and that was just a list of the topics we've covered, no real elaboration or anything, although we went over it in class.

i don't think it's necessarily going "too easy" on your students if you provide them with one. but expecting one from you is a bit much. 

for some reason i still find it hard to believe that you're a professor. You sound like you're twenty.

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
That's because you haven't actually heard me speak. If you had you'd think I as 14.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
how so?
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
Will somebody that has heard me speak and likes me field that one?
renita Back · 14 years, 4 months ago
well, i don't know that i'd describe gordon's voice in quite that way.

but yes, our gordondon has a distinctive voice. it's a bit of a surprise, but then you can't imagine him speaking any other way.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
Now I wanna hear it! Gordon, you should put up an mp3 of yourself...singing.
Bender Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Dear god, woman... you don't know what you just did.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 3 months ago

will anyone care to tell me what I have done? I'm excited...

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
You have asked to hear me sing.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 3 months ago

so let's hear it...

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
I have dialup so uploading takes me forever so sorry, I'm not going to do that. I did once have a recording of me singing Ol' Man River on my profile but deleted it as an act of mercy.

You live in New York right? perhaps you'll see me at a show and I'll sing for you then. Just remember you've been warned that my voice has been banned by the Geneve Convention.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 3 months ago

:) I still want to hear it.  But yeah, I'll spare you the trouble. For now.

Bender Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
No, dude.

Trust me on this.

I actually have files of him singing. I keep them for the same reason they keep samples of smallpox around -- to create a vaccine in case of a terrorist unleashing it on the world.
Phoenix Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
You mean since they use Metallica at Gitmo they could use Gordon's singing, too?
renita · 14 years, 3 months ago
so here's an idea, gordon.

you have trouble getting them to do homework, right?

so--for a "review sheet" make a handout with all of the homework assignments on it,eg. P183 #4-8 , P185 #1, 2, 4d-f or whatever.

Then say that to review for the test, make sure they have mastered the skills that those questions require.

Because frankly, with math, if you've done the homework--you'll probably do fine on the test.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
I suggested that but the student wanted me to narrow down the questions to the ones I'd actually give on the test since expecting him to know all the material is totally unreasonable.
renita Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
o.O

okay so. um. why is he pursuing higher education?
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 3 months ago

maybe you should hold a review session instead of providing a review sheet. That way you can quickly go over everything you've covered during the term instead of "naroowing it down". Or maybe hold a question/answer session. Or tell the student to come during your office hours and offer him with any particular topic he's having trouble with. 

or you could always threaten to sing for him.

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
I have in some classes threatened to sing. It works wonders.
A girl named Becca Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
Funny, my kids beg me to sing. And dance. I can't figure out why - neither is enjoyable for an audience...
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
The answer to that is simple, to get a good job to make money.
Adeeba Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
where do you teach?
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
New York Institute of Technology.
Talcott Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
Wait.
College leads to money?

I take it they're not English majors? ;-)
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
Correct. English majors don't take calculus.

My friend and I used to play dozens of variations of Monopoly that we invented ourselves. One of the versions was "college monopoly." If you paid tuition you could get a degree. If you got a college degree your got $300 instead of $200 every time you passed go. If you then went to grad school you got $150 every time you passed. Nobody ever chose that option.
danced with Lazlo Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
If you then went to grad school you got $150 every time you passed.

*giggle*

Okay, so wait. Clarify something for me. In this student's mind, review sheet = having the actual questions in advance of the test?

In my world that = cheating.

Tell him that.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
No not that actual questions, identically worded questions with different numbers.
Bender Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
I don't see how that's much different than what Gella thought.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
It isn't that much different, but it is different. I can tell you from experience that to some students it is a huge difference. If you vary a problem in the slightest it throws them.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
I just found out that the other Calculus 2 teacher does exactly that. she gives them a copy of the test to study from before they take the actual test.
danced with Lazlo Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
Once upon a time in a faraway land there was a great and wonderous beast called Professorial Integrity.

Then it got hit by a meteor and died.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 14 years, 3 months ago
But it left children that eventually evolved into birds.

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