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Poll: TMBG - Pre-Elektra B-Sides - Part 1

We're The Replacements 8 (44%)
When It Rains It Snows 2 (11%)
The Famous Polka 4 (22%)
For Science 4 (22%)
The Biggest One 0 (0%)
Mr. Klaw 0 (0%)
   Discussion: TMBG - Pre-Elektra B-Sides - Part 1
John J. Ryan · 15 years, 5 months ago
This week's polls are dedicated to selected B-sides before TMBG was signed to Elektra Records. Basically, their B-sides from the 1980s.
lawrence Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Don't forget to include Hey, Mr. DJ, I Thought You Said We Had a Deal, even though it's not a B-side. Otherwise it won't be included at all. Or does it just go in the 'songs that don't belong anywhere else' category, with songs like Counterfeit Faker and Rat Patrol?

Will Long Tall Weekend be included? Or the Factory Showroom Sessions? That was a widely enough copied bootleg that it should be included. What about They Got Lost? Are both versions of Sensurround going to be in the polls, or just the S-E-X-X-Y one, since the Power Rangers one was never released by TMBG?

I think once we hit about 2002, there's going to need to be a clearer definition of what gets included, because between TMBG Unlimited and podcasts and live-only songs, this could really go on for ever with songs no one likes or cares about and still have no chance of beating Birdhouse or Ana Ng.
Josh Woodward Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Really, are there any songs that anyone likes or cares about from 1997-2006, released or not? ;-)
lawrence Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Heh, good point.
Songbill Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Now there are some good songs in that period... of course none of the albums would have a chance against the first three or four.  By the way, oddly, I heard "We're the Replacements" long before I heard "Radio Radio" by Elvis Costello-- and when I finally heard the Costello classic, I realized that WTR owes much to it!  Also "She Was A Hotel Detective" owes a lot to "Everyday I Write the Book." 
Songbill Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
...not to be confused with (She Was A) Hotel Detective which doesn't sound like any Elvis Costello song I've heard.
John J. Ryan Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
To answer your question, here is an overview for the TMBG song tournament:

Pink Album
Pre-Elektra B-Sides
Apollo 18
John Henry
Factory Showroom
Elektra B-sides
Long Tall Weekend
Mink Car
The Spine
The Else
Post-Elektra B-Sides

Pre Elektra B-Sides consist of:

We're The Replacements
When It Rains It Snows
The Famous Polka
For Science
The Biggest One
Mr. Klaw
It's Not My Birthday
I'll Sink Manhattan
Nightgown Of The Sullen Moon
Hey, Mr. DJ
Lady Is A Tramp
Birds Fly

Elektra B-Sides

Stormy Pinkness
Welcome To The Jungle
I Blame You
Moving To The Sun
Why Does The Sun Shine?
She Was A Hotel Detective
Mrs. Train
We've Got A World That Swings

Post-Elektra B-Sides

Doctor Worm
About Me
Doctor Evil
Boss Of Me
Your Mom's Alright
Rest Awhile
I Am A Human Head
Empty Bottle Collector
On The Drag
Am I Awake?
Caroline, No
The Spine Surfs Alone
Now Is Strange
I'm All You Can Think About
Fun Assassin
The Other Side Of The World
Canada Haunts Me

There will be two wild cards that will make up the round of 16.

lawrence Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Long Tall Weekend
Mink Car

I know it'll never happen, but it would be funny if the winners of these were both Older and they faced each other...

Also, will Your Mom's Alright and Boss of Me be included in the Mink Car poll?

And what about the Power Rangers version of Sensurround, which was actually good, unlike the horrendous S-E-X-X-Y version?
John J. Ryan Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Older will only be used on the Mink Car poll.
Boss Of Me and Your Mom's Alright will be included on the Post-Elektra B-sides poll (Thanks for reminding me)
As for Sensurround, whichever version you choose.

The only song that will have more than one version on the entire poll is Hotel Detective, because the Pink Album version and the Back To Skull version are completely different songs.
lawrence Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Older will only be used on the Mink Car poll.

oh, ick. the LTW version actually doesn't suck, though.
John J. Ryan Back · 15 years, 5 months ago

You're not necessarily voting on the Mink Car version.  You're voting on whatever version you want, it just happens to be in the Mink Car poll.

lawrence Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
I don't think that's really the right argument. Unless it's explicitly clear from the start, people are going to assume you mean the version that's on the album, just like they did for the Früvous poll.

Not that it matters, because there are better songs than Older on both LTW and Mink Car, but the point is, it's not a fair competition when people aren't necessarily able to apply the same standards to their voting.
Josh Woodward Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
So just list it as "Older (either version)" or something to that effect.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Actually I never assumed it meant the album version on the Fruvous poll. It was about picking the best Fruvous song and that was simply a convenient way of organizing them. It is just like the Grammys, when they mean the best recording they call it "best record" not best song."

Songbill Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
Isn't it the other way around?  There's "best song" that goes to the songwriter, and "best record" that goes to the performer.  Or is that what you were saying?
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
actually I think best record goes to the producer and best performance or vocal performance or some variation on that goes to the performer. We could of course check this very easily. Not that you see me rushing to do it.
nate... Back · 15 years, 5 months ago
See, I did.... I think it's very important to pick the version on the particular album, not just the song in general.

That opens up FAR too many possibilities that not everyone has heard...

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