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Poll: What do you think human nature is like?

"I still believe that people are really good at heart" 16 (17%)
Most people are all out for themselves 17 (18%)
Most people are evil 6 (6%)
Tabula Rasa, people are created by their environment 15 (16%)
This isn't a meaningful question 12 (13%)
It would take a book to explain my thoughts 28 (30%)
   Discussion: What do you think human nature is like?
Rimbo · 16 years, 9 months ago
I believe people (for the most part) want to be good, but can't. The End.
goovie is married! · 16 years, 9 months ago
i hate everybody. everyone is evil. angst. woe. tragedy.
Phoenix Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
Yep. We love you, too ;-)
Michael (foof) Maki Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
Hatin's kind of fun.
Starfox · 16 years, 9 months ago
I don't really know if people are basically good or basically evil. I would definitely say that humans take the path of least resistance. If they can get something without effort, they will choose that rather than expend the effort to get something.

I think K said it best in MIB:
"A *person* is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Michael (foof) Maki Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
Jesus. I'm agreeing with Starfox *again*?!

Hold me, I'm scared.
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 16 years, 9 months ago
Do you know who I was quoting in the first answer?
goovie is married! Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
anne frank.
Rimbo Back · 16 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, Anne, Frank.

Poor girl had a first name for a last name.  Sucks when that happens.  Although I realize now that the hell she went through might be worse.  I'm a jerk.

Bender Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
when I was eleven, I was obsessed with her.
stealthlori · 16 years, 9 months ago
i'll write it soon. 'k?

(j/k)

as for the environmental/tabula rasa option, i think yes but that's only half of a dilemma, the other horn being: "their environment is a product of people's actions, thoughts and expectations".

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
"their environment is a product of people's actions, thoughts and expectations".

What you are really saying is that society is a non-linear system, everyone affects everyone else. Which is exactly what makes things so complicated.
emilie is CRANKY · 16 years, 9 months ago
i've lost all faith in mankind after being a charity fundraiser. i've discovered that most people are snobs and couldn't give a fuck about anyone else. [/phat generalisation] fortunately there are some genuinely lovely people out there. what's nice is that you end up forgetting most of the tossers, and it's the exceptionally great people who stick with you for a long time. :)
Michael (foof) Maki Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
Hmmm. I'm not sure that A follows from B here.

I mean, just because I don't want to be bothered by someone calling/walking up to me on the street wanting money for some-random-charity-I've-never-heard-of, does that make me evil?

I'm prolly evil for much more interesting reasons than *that*. Heh.
Rimbo Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
On a similar note, if I give money to a charity, does that make me "good?"  Perhaps a better question here would be, "What makes a person good?"  or "Can a person be good?"
Kris 'engaged' Bedient Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
gosh, that's such a short, easy topic.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
What do you do in your fundraising? People aren't at their best when someone has their hand out.

When I take pledges at FUV most of the people are really nice. A few aren't and some are just lonely and want someone to talk to.
Annika · 16 years, 9 months ago
I think all people are good at heart. Sometimes it's easier to not be a good person though.
Rimbo Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
Hmmm.  I'd agree with that up until the "sometimes" part.  It usually is easier to be selfish, rude, etc.
ShrinkMan · 16 years, 9 months ago
"... I could write a book." 0o.
Michael (foof) Maki Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
.oO Everyday I write the book Oo.

I mean, really, what *is* so funny about peace love and understanding? ;-)
Magical Bob · 16 years, 9 months ago

Anyone read The Once and Future King by T.H. White? The last chapter covers this topic extensively. I really enjoyed it (both the chapter and the book[story of King Arthur]). I believe that people do things for reasons. This does not make them good or bad, just people with reasons. If someone I know randomly walks up to me and starts punching me in the shoulder (this has happened before) I know he is doing that because he is trying to get me annoyed so that I will snap and beat the living shit out of him, getting me in trouble and entertaining him. Ok, bad example. Whenever I get frustrated at my parents (I'm a teen), I think about why they are acting the way they are. I realize that they are trying to help me or trying to make me feel better by talking about things from what they think my point of view is. They are usually wrong, but I don't feel so bad when I realize that they are just trying to make me happy. I just try to look for motives in every frustrating situation.

-The Philosophical, Magical Bob

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
I love the Once and Future King. Merlin participate in our forums.
zil · 16 years, 9 months ago
I feel that human nature is... for the most part... at its roots... selfish and selfpreserving with a twinkle of "help thy fellow man" tossed in there.
Nik Chaikin Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
with a healthy sprig of blatent idiocy
Rimbo Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
And a dash of body odor.
Michael (foof) Maki Back · 16 years, 9 months ago
.oO and a partridge in a pear tree Oo.

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