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Poll: Who do you think is going to be the official winner of the 2004 presidential Election? (not who should)

George W. Bush 24 (28%)
John Kerry 44 (51%)
Ralph Nader 1 (1%)
The world will end before the election 18 (21%)
   Discussion: Who do you think is going to be the official winner of the 2004 presidential Election? (not who should)
Josh Woodward · 20 years, 1 month ago
As much as it pains me to say this, I think GWB is going to get re-elected. He's a mastermind of preying off of the fears of people. Plus, the dems didn't exactly pick the stiffest competition. Everyone write in Clark! ;-)
dgodwin Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
I have to agree, although I think Kerry will give Bush a run for the money.
Talcott Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Well, technically, the Dems could still pick someone else.

They'd get a lot of flak from it, but it'd throw the Republican attacks completly off course ;-)
lawrence Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
I think GWB is going to get re-elected

re?
Starfox Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
So Josh, who do you like for the Libertarian nomination?

I like Badnarik best, followed by Nolan. Russo is too much of an outsider for my liking. I question whether he's really libertarian.
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 20 years, 1 month ago
This poll would give an interesting dilemma to many Bush supporters, those who are apocalyptic Christians, and believe that the end of the world is coming soon. Which choice would constitute the greater breach of faith?

That being said I picked Kerry, no president has been reelected with approval ratings as low as Bush's are in an election year.
Talcott Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Yeah, I think it's going to be close, and a lot could change between then and now, but I think Kerry will get slightly more votes because more people seem to be strongly anti-Bush than are strongly pro-Bush. The entire race is going to come down to voter turn-out.

That all said, I think Kerry has a real chance to kill his own campaign just like Gore did. He already seems to be drifting more to the center, which isn't going to convert many people, but might lose a number.

I was thinking that Nader wouldn't have much presence this race, but now I have no idea what's going on. The Reform Party support is either going to lose him some support, or it's going to bring in people from the right as well as the left. I mean, Perot--> Ventura--> Buchanan--> Nader?


This is still early in the race though. A lot could happen between now and November. Either way, I bet we won't know who won until a month after the election. If Bush wins, people will cry fowl (either recount or rigged electronic voting), and the same will happen if Kerry wins. The only way that might not cause problems would be a 60-40 win, which was also predicted in the polls the week before.


I just want Bartlett for president.
Starfox Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
more people seem to be strongly anti-Bush than are strongly pro-Bush.

You've obviously not spent much time in rural America or the South.
Bender Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
or south *jersey*, for that matter.
Rimbo Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Hm.� This is complicated:� I think Bush will win the reelection, but that will set in motion the apocalypse.� I have it on good authority that if we have an idiot in charge for more than four years (Reagan doesn't count) that the end is near.� It's somewhere in Revelation.� "In those days, a moron from Texas will ascend to a position of power claiming to be a follower of the Way, but anyone with brains will be able to see that he's a bastard."
Michael (foof) Maki Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Hee. What version of the bible is that, Justin? It sounds like a lot more fun and a lot easier to understand than my KJV. :-)
Rimbo Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
That's the JIV (Justin International Version).� Publishing pending.
Kris 'engaged' Bedient Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
I thought it was the "Justin International Version Edition" (JIVE)
iPauley Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
...which, for reasons that escape me, has just earwormed me with "Jungle Boogie."

o/` get down, get down... o/`

-- Pauley
Samantha · 20 years, 1 month ago
the world will end. We will all be blown to smithereens.. we'll be condemned to an eternity of dry ice,cold showers, and being forced to listen to NSYNC. *shudders and runs*
A girl named Becca · 20 years, 1 month ago
I'll admit it's hard to judge from my Vermont-liberal-arts-college-bubble, but it seems to me like people are pretty sick of Bush, especially now with the decapitations and prison abuse and general Iraq disaster. There's still time before the election, of course, so if they, for example, know where Bin Laden is and arrest him in October...well...that's another story. But as things stand now I think it looks pretty good for Kerry.
stealthlori Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
i'd agree. i live in a solidly republican suburban area, but people here are sick of bush and war and lies and soldiers' tours of duty being extended.

as for the decapitation, Nick Berg was a local resident, his family supported the war, and now they are screaming about lies and stonewalling from the FBI and the White House. And so are their Republican congressman and our 2 Republican senators, one of whom just won a primary earlier this month largely thanks to Bush's strong support. I think the Shrub is in major trouble in PA.
Talcott Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
See, while around here in Ohio people are still fairly split on the war, Bush is losing a lot of support from the Small-Government types. They aren't going to Kerry either, but neither canidate has any room to lose supporters at this point.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
I think Dave Cantor from Dave's True Story has come up with the Slogan for the Democratic Party.

Bring back Clinton: blowjobs not snowjobs.
Starfox Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Actually, Berg's father did not support the war, nor Bush. Nick Berg did support Bush and the war though.
Bender Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
from what I gathered, he supported it because he could make a buck putting up cell towers... I mean... RECONSTRUCTING THE COUNTRY.

(wow. I'm bitter.)
stealthlori Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
yeah, there is that war-profiteer aspect isn't there?
stealthlori Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
true, at least recently. there now seems to be a cottage industry of who-killed-Nick-Berg-and-who-helped? conspiracy theories, aided and abetted by the far-right freerepublic.com lately having targeted Berg's father, and the family telecom business Nick was representing in Iraq, as an enemy. curiouser and curiouser, in a wacky-intrigue way.
zil · 20 years, 1 month ago
broccolli in 2004?!
Talcott Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Sounds better than our other options :-)
Talcott Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
Kris 'engaged' Bedient Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
even if broccoli doesn't win, I think that should be the new national flag of america
zil Back · 20 years, 1 month ago

Broccoli: smarter than Bush

Broccoli, a good source of fiber. vote for regularity in 2004!

Erato · 20 years, 1 month ago
Both Spector and Santorium are screaming about this now? Very interesting. I might have expected it from Spector but not Santorium ever.
Bender Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
oh, man. I can't think of the name Santorum without thinking of the Savage Love definition.
stealthlori Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
i heard comments from both of them on Thursday or Friday, on KYW radio. Specter came out more strongly, saying it seemed impossible to get any answers to reasonable questions or requests from the Pentagon or the executive branch (slam!), but Santorum chimed in too. and yeah, it shocked me to hear Rick differing from the Bush administration on something, no matter how obliquely.

I can't help but think the White House is already rueing their primary support for Specter. He's never exactly been a conservative darling, and he seems to buck the national Republican party almost as often as he falls in line and sucks up to it.
Magical Bob · 20 years, 1 month ago
My apologies for the marginal Nader percent. I was trying to vote for Kerry, but the mouse pad slipped and before I knew it, I had voted Nader. Let this be a lesson: secure your mousepad before voting.

-The Ever Magical Bob
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
You must have been voting in Florida.
Starfox · 20 years, 1 month ago
Unfortunately, Bush will win. Kerry has no message, no agenda other than "I'm not Bush" and "Bush is Evil." Regardless what I think of the two major parties, to win an American election, you have to woo the centrist voters. To woo them, you must have a well defined message. Kerry doesn't.

Unless the economic turn around stops or goes belly up, then it's four more years of Bush.
Rimbo Back · 20 years, 1 month ago
I think SNL put it best the other night.� John Kerry, (the character) said (more or less), "I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut.� Everytime I say something, my approval rating drops, but everytime I shut up and let Bush make an ass out of himself, people love me."

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