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Jian's "The First Six Songs"- lyrics?

   Discussion: Jian's "The First Six Songs"- lyrics?
caroline: tired. · 16 years ago
Anyone know where I can find lyrics to Jian's "The First Six Songs?" I can't seem to find them anywhere!
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 16 years ago
I hope Jian appreciates the restraint I'm showing.
caroline: tired. · 16 years ago
is there a reason you are showing restraint that i should know about? some sort of secret, unspoken rule?
lawrence Back · 16 years ago
Jian is a big fan of the reply button. Not so secret or unspoken, really.
hkath Back · 16 years ago
Just that everyone around here seems to enjoy implying Jian's incompetence as a songwriter all the while frequenting a website devoted to a band he is 25% responsible for creating.

No offense, Gordon, I know you're not the usual culprit. Sometimes I just like to stir this stuff up and see who falls on which side of the line this time.
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
i can't use the reply button whan im creating a topic....can I? because i am making it up. I am not replying.
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
I noticed there a reason for it? jian is my FAVORITE frulad. I see no reason for everyone to verbally smack him around. And still no one has answered my question...what is it with all you people and controversy?
lawrence Back · 16 years ago
Well, it's because he puts himself out there, really. He's loud (not necessarily in a singing sense, although I've heard a few off-mic versions of Gulf War Song where he's definitely trying to be louder than he needs to be) and visible, so he's just easier to pick on.

It's also very easy to make fun of the fact that he put out a 6 song EP almost four years ago and has yet to release a full length album.
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
but just because it is easy doesn't mean you have to do it. make fun of someone bush. or someone else. i don't know. never mind, i guess. He does have a tv show though. that might slow production of a CD. Besides...he's pretty damn funny.
lawrence Back · 16 years ago
oh believe me, I make fun of You-Know-Who plenty. :)

but it's not just that it's easy. by virtue of the fact that he talks a lot and puts himself out there, he says a lot of things that makes a lot of us do double takes. he also gave off certain vibes or appearances while Fruvous were touring that a lot of people reference frequently.

I'll make fun of his EP because I don't particularly like it. I find it rather whiny and boring, and more than a little bit attention-whore-ish. ('scream if you think I'm right'? *gag*)
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
ok..fine. I dont really care. but the point is that i just asked a question...and it turned into some kind of jian-bashing session. Jeez. Is there no other outlet for that?
oh, and at least you do make fun of "you know who." that is a comfort at least. god I hate that man.
nate... Back · 16 years ago
well.. .it varies widely, I think.

I mean, it's an ongoing joke to make fun of jian, I think... but some people do tend to have an actual problem with him.


Personally, I just think of it as good-natured ribbing, for the most part..... I mean, we all obviously appreciate the guy's talent while he was with fruvous.... he just seems to leave himself open to fun-poking in many other areas. :)
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
i think you are right...and maybe after a while you get kinda immune to it.
nate... Back · 16 years ago
I think we all do... and to an extent, I think people start to forget that these are PEOPLE we make fun of.... not just inanimate characters ...... I'm as guilty of it as anyone.

I've said many things that, in hindsight, were totally inappropriate.
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
that's what I thought was the case. people get caught up in it and forget that these are real people they are talking about. Which is fine, as long as people like you can realize they were wrong.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 16 years ago
Actually I am frequently the culprit :-)

Caroline, look at my profile, in particular the photo labeled "hate letter from Jian."

Jian and I have been kidding each other since I wrote what he called "the infamous 40 page treatise," which is also on my profile.

goovie is married! Back · 16 years ago
yes, but in your "huh?" post, you're responding to gordon. so it would help if you used the reply button so that your post would *look* like a reply to gordon. it may seem like a silly thing for people to harp on, but it makes a big difference in being able to follow the conversations in the forums. thanks!
goovie is married! Back · 16 years ago
"jian-bashing session"? one person made one comment, implying that he might possibly have something derogatory to say about jian. that's hardly "jian-bashing," especially around these here parts. :)
Annika Back · 16 years ago

I went looking a bit, and didn't find it.  If they're out there google doesn't know!  I think the lyrics are on the cd cover though.

J. Andrew World Back · 16 years ago
I totally forgot about that letter! Gordon, you rock.
A.J. · 16 years ago
Jian invites being made fun of in so many ways. That doesn't mean we don't like him. There is an ongoing debate about what is and is not appropriate teasing, and where the line is, but generally it is pretty good natured.

Also as far as the making fun of real people thing goes, I think mostly what is made fun of is the "character" as seen on stage rather than the real person. Jian is the one who's character and personality tend to get mixed up the most, so he's the one who sometimes seems to get a harsh treatment, but you know, he's a big boy. I think he can take it. :)
Sally Back · 16 years ago

yes because one day he'll appear all anti-corporation but you'll take a picture of him wearing Nike shoes.


renita · 16 years ago
...because he stunk up my bear hat.

and because of the pants he was wearing at frff (2000?) the one that jillmom had a videotape of. d00d. those were scary pants. pants should never be that tight, especially if they're white.
danced with Lazlo Back · 16 years ago
*dies from pants*
hkath Back · 16 years ago
Yes, and *I*'m a sellout for working at Blockbuster Video. :D

(whee, here I go)
Misch Back · 16 years ago
Zoom and scroll!

(only a limited number of people would get that...)
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 16 years ago
what's the going rate for a soul?

Recommend Last Temptation of Christ and all is forgiven :-)

Blockbuster wouldn't carry Last Temptation.
100% dainty! · 16 years ago
Caroline I think I know what all the lyrics are, so I can email them to you if you like. :)

And yes, Jian is fun to make fun of, but since most of us love the band, we even love the crazy characters that make us do doubletakes. Honestly, we're all just jealous of the nose. We all want a schnoz that sexy and beaklike.
hkath Back · 16 years ago
That's Blockbuster in the states. We have no such censor problems here.
sheryls Back · 16 years ago
but it's an important movie. oh. wait.
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
thanks, that would be great. send them to this address:
by the can't forget the know you love it.
renita Back · 16 years ago
mmm greasy
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
nate... Back · 16 years ago
ChrisChin is Getting Old Back · 16 years ago
yeah, greasy doesn't just describe his hair. :)
renita Back · 16 years ago
exactly. :p
Bender Back · 16 years ago
... have you *seen* his hair recently?

it's scary.
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
it isn't THAT scary. you should see the people at my school. like this one girl who has blonde hair in dreads. some of which are dyed pink. And this other girl with blue, green, pink, orange and purple hair. its all relative...
Bender Back · 16 years ago

see, that's awesome.

puffy and toupee-like?  scary ;P

caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
this other kid has this weird lookin' jew-fro-ish that is cool. it is all puffy. like a poodle on his head...he's in my honors history class.
danced with Lazlo Back · 16 years ago
what exactly is wrong with multicolor and dredlocked hair?
caroline: tired. Back · 16 years ago
nothin is WRONG with it. just an example of a little scariness in hairstyles. nothing is WRONG with jian's hair either. just examples. thats all. its kinda cool actually.
Eri Back · 16 years ago
Mmm. Pink hair.

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