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not just the usual suspects

   Discussion: not just the usual suspects
goovie is married! · 19 years, 4 months ago
I'd like to know what other Fruheads are listening to -- besides Fruvous *and*
besides the usual suspects (TMBG, Dar, Nields, EFO...you know...). We've got very
diverse tastes around here, and I'm curious to know what else people are into
right now.
Sara Woodward Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
I think quite a few people hear already know about him, but if you don't know Peter Mulvey give him a listen. Also Nick Drake
Josh Woodward Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
It'd take me eons to actually list out the music I regularly listen to, but lately I've been getting into.. Travis (dense post-Radiohead brit-pop, thanks Kat!), The Strokes (neo-70's NYC punk crossed with Cake), Wilco (rootsy rock), and The Old '97s (alt.country, very fun stuff). Oh, and here's to Peter Mulvey *raises glass* :-)
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
I think I screwed up my last post. Lets try again. Deni Bonet is great. She plays a Rockin' violin and has fun lyrics. Of course there are my usual suspects, Christine Lavin, DVN, and Slaid Cleaves.
Mollie Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
Lately I've been really into Elliott Smith. I think he's really brilliant, I mean, really quite amazing. I feel like his music is in my blood...I know that sounds ridiculous, but I only mean it as a measure of how amazing he is. I kind of want him to be wildly popular (as he deserves) and I kind of want to keep him to myself. Although he does have a fairly wide fan base. He sounds kind of Beatley, but that doesn't sufficiently describe his amazingness. He writes these beautiful little harmonies with great lyrics. I strongly recommend him. I think he's working on an album now.
willowisp Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Elliot Smith is most definately brilliant.. I got into his stuff about a year ago. I love his lyrics. I definately understand how you feel about the whole popular/unpopular thing. I want him to get all the recognition and rewards he deserves for his amazing work but I don't want preppy bimbos listening to him just because he would be the next big thing.
nate... Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Yeah, I like Elliott Smith a lot!

A friend in VT got me into him back when I lived up there.
I only have XO, however.
Any suggestions on other albums to buy?
J. Andrew World Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
I like Depeche Mode and Danny Elfman. They have Nothing to do with Früvous!
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
What do you mean?

Danny Elfman was in The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993) with Chris Sarandon Chris Sarandon was in Reaper (1998) with Vlasta Vrana Vlasta Vrana was in Eddie and the Cruisers II: Eddie Lives! (1989) with David Matheson and Dave is in Moxy Fruvous.
willowisp Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
I love Danny Elfman!
ChrisChin is Getting Old Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
yay Danny Elfman!  His Music for A Darkened Theater Vol. 1 was my first CD that I ever got/bought. 
beth-pseudocanuck! Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
how about lucy kaplansky (perhaps could be considered a "usual suspect"), dashboard confessional, norah jones, and nick drake?
zil Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
Paranoied Social Club. Strokes. Vines. Jake Johnson. Olivia Tremmor Controll. Modest Mouse. Built To Spill. Rocktapuss. Jeramia Freed. Frosted Porn Flakes. Folkimplosion. Dispatch. Pavement. The Afgan Wigs. The Pixies. Apples In Stereo. ... ...
zil Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
oh yeah... ps... bruce rose rocks.
Bruce Rose Back · 19 years, 4 months ago
I see this forum getting huge... and I'm really looking forward to it!
I'm another person with widely varied tastes and the recommendations to prove it. Lately, I find myself listening to a lot of Kasey Chambers (Australian country- folk singer-songwriter... imagine Gillian Welch with more attitude and a pierced nostril) and Robbie Fulks (alt-country hillbilly GOD). To balance the recent upswing in twang music, I'm also digging back to listen to the Clash and the rest of my old punk collection.
Not that any of the usual suspects ever leave my player for long.
A girl named Becca Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
Let's see...I tend to do a little bit of everything (I used to say that when it wasn't true...then I met my freshman-year roommate, who actually did listen to a little bit of everything, and who exposed me to the genres I was missing.). Some of my favorites, though, are Dispatch, Gin Blossoms (whom you may remember from "Anywhere you go, I'll follllllow you down..."), Goo Goo Dolls (might not be everyone's cup of tea, but they are really talented, and I'd recommend giving them a shot), Lisa Loeb (sort of folky, I know, but not usually included in the folk scene...), October/November Project, New Found Glory, No Doubt (occasionally, and mainly for nostalgia value...they were my first concert), and a variety of one- hit wonders whom I use on mix CDs (this includes 80's pop, boy bands, techno, hip-hop, mild punk stuff, etc.). Sorry, I didn't expect this post to get so long! :)
Laura P. Back · 18 years, 4 months ago

October/November Project,

Is this different than October Project? Is there a November Project? or is it just called October/November Project, having nothing to do with the dis-banded band October Project?

Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
November Project is the successor band to October Project.

Any October/November project fans know Rennaisance? October Project followed in their footsteps.
Laura P. Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
I tried to google November Project and didn't come up with much. It is everyone from October Project minus Mary Fahl?
Bruce Rose Back · 18 years, 4 months ago

I believe so, but I've yet to see the NP release I was promised years ago.  I did just pick up the Mary Fahl solo CD from the station.  Frum me if you're interested in my review.

nitsita Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
New Found Glory.  Yum.
goovie is married! Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
is it gauche to reply to my own thread? oh, well, who cares? people i've been listening to lately, besides the usual suspects, are david morreale, sarah bowman, norah jones, julia fordham, magnetic fields (when i have access to neal's cds, anyway), chris & meredith thompson, and an excellent a cappella mix that eri made for me a few months ago. and it's fall now, which means i'll be digging out the roches, rem, joni mitchell, and uncle bonsai.
Mollie Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
Superdrag!
Dave Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Bran Van 3000
bored, bored, bored.... · 19 years, 3 months ago
Right now I'm loving Dan Bern's last CD. "God Said No", Alaska Highway", "Tape"... great stuff. I also can't go a day without listening to David Francey's Juno award winning CD, The Far End of Summer. With Mike and Dave on "Banks of the Seaway. *grin* That's my entry for Six Degrees of Moxy Fruvous.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
I forgot to mention Dan. I see him whenver he plays here. Alaska Highway is a great album. He never recorded my favorite song of his. I think it's called Hey God. It's hte one where god tells him about the commandment "thou Shalt not be mean to a moose"
Paul D. Beasi Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
I think the "official" title of that song was "Lightning Jazz". I have a couple of recordings of it from the Bottom Line shows with Fruvous and I also have the really wild one from Smith College where he didn't feel the audience was getting into his show enough and he just went nuts on the song. It's awesome. :)

Anyway if you need a hookup with an mp3 then frum me.
erica is so cold · 19 years, 3 months ago
mike errico...this guy is so great...i'm sure you have seen betsy or i tell you about the wonders of this man...you need to check him out and fast!
betsy =) Back · 19 years, 3 months ago
we love mike. and choo choo bear, but he doesn't sing. he's just a 25 year old boneless, fur-less cat who doesn't meow properly.

but mike, he sings. quite well too.

personally, ive also dug out my old 97's cd, fight songs. it's almost fall, and it takes me back. im also listening to josh rouse, phantom planet (the band the guy from rushmore is in), the new coldplay, howie day, and wayne (an alt-countryish band from alabama).
danced with Lazlo · 19 years, 3 months ago
I'm quite fond of Talvin Singh, Infected Mushroom, Tabla Beat Science, and William Orbit. I don't think those are "usual suspects"
I can see the bunny · 19 years, 3 months ago
I'd have to agree with Dan Bern and Kasey Chambers who were mentioned - both incredible, I must say. Of course I've been listening a lot to Blackie and the Rodeo Kings and the separate players in the band (Tom Wilson, Colin Linden, Willie P. Bennett...and yeah, Stephen). Tom's a psycho, Colin is an amazing blues guitarist and Willie P. is just a legend so what can ya say? :) The Supers and Starling deserve mentioning here as do Andy Stochansky, Ron Sexsmith, Andy White and (for a change of pace)K-OS who has this awesome hip-hop/world/R&B kinda fusion thing going on.
Zach · 18 years, 4 months ago
Figure 8. Damn fine album.
emilie is CRANKY · 18 years, 4 months ago

well, i've been on a weird grunger streak for the past, oh, 6 months or so (blame it on various underage boys *cough*). :D so i've gotten back into the foo fighters, counting crows, ash, nirvana, bowling for soup etc. new faves are smashing pumpkins (thanks to a certain hobbit), weezer, queens of the stone age, RHCP, coldplay, the strokes, system of a down... and the list goes on. (oh, and HEDWIG!! omg.)

of course the bulk of my cd collection is made up of fruvous and fru-related bands (DVN, arrogant worms, russell wolff, EFO, plus the obligatory beatles albums and BNL who are, apart from fruvous, my favourite band of all time), but i'm also totally into CSNY, james taylor, paul simon, that kinda thing. random other stuff, though: billy joel, justin timberlake, various movie soundtracks (amelie, jurassic park and o brother where art thou being among my favourites), michael jackson, mr bungle, frank sinatra, al green, and i'm hoping to acquire some hanson from somewhere. :D

nate... Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
YEAH! Mr. Bungle!!!

Holy CRAP do/did they put on a good show.
Only saw them once, but it was amazing.

Patton is a freakin psycho.
:D
k-rock Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Mike Patton is a genius. 'nuff said.
and oh yeah Mr. Bungle was amazing live. even if i did see them through the silly Toads Place fence while all my friends were on the other side. (yeah i'm still crying about that. you're not to blame, i didn't know you then)
Zach · 18 years, 4 months ago
Lately I've been really into The Postal Service, Radiohead, Elbow, Coldplay, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Elliott Smith, Guster, and the usual suspects (Moxy Früvous, BNL, EFO, DVN, GBS (check that out! Four three-letter abbreviations in a row!), Peter Mulvey, etc.)
Songbill Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Lyle Lovett. Oh yeah. 'Nuff said.
goovie is married! · 18 years, 4 months ago
andrew bird andrew bird andrew bird. kevin o'donnell. nora o'connor. andrew bird andrew bird andrew bird.
also girlyman. but most people who attended frff can say the same.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
I'm really surprised you didn't mention Andrew Bird. I thought you really liked him
goovie is married! Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
no, i can't stand him. i just go to hang out with the chick who wears the bird in her hair. and the obnoxious guy who tries to have conversations with him during the show. birdwatchers are fun. :P
angelmusicmaven Back · 18 years, 4 months ago

Andrew Bird makes me think of Murray, at least he did that time I saw him.  A totally high Murray.  Heh!

Spin Doctors, Bela Fleck, Andreas Kapsalis Trio, Down to the Bone, Vertical Horizon, McCoy Tyner when it's time to just jam...

 Jackopierce, Dada, Jellyfish/Jason Falkner, Monkees, Kevin Salem, the Silos, Fountains of Wayne and Down the Line when I want good poppy or rocky stuff.

Andy Stochansky, always!  Five Star Motel especially, I think it's brilliant

THORNS (or Matthew Sweet or Pete Droge solo), Wilco, Dolly Varden, Jayhawks, Lowen & Navarro, Ron Sexsmith when it's time to chill.

I love a ton more folks, of course, but those are some of the "core artists," so to speak.

goovie is married! Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
he makes me think more of tory cassis. a very high tory cassis. :)
altho, he was surprisingly lucid and down-to-earth on friday.
Laura P. Back · 18 years, 4 months ago

Jellyfish/Jason Falkner

I didn't realize he was in Jellyfish and the Grays (Greys? I can't spell), both of which I love! Weird when stuff dovetails like that.

angelmusicmaven Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Jason's so great! (and soooo fiiiiine) he has also toured as bassist or guitarist for a crapload of bands including Beck and Air... he should have something new coming out soon with Roger Manning from J'fish.  Andy Sturmer from J'fish just finished up producing a new record for a Japanese pop group called Puffy Amiyumi.  For any big Jellyfish fans out there, I'd recommend checking out Ebay or Not Lame Records to get their box set... 4 CDs of a band that just put out two?  Weird, but there are cool demos and some unbelievable live stuff.
nate... · 18 years, 4 months ago
WA9 WA9 WA9 WA9 WA9 WA9 WA9 WA9 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D
A girl named Becca Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Second!
:)
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 18 years, 4 months ago
I mentioned Deni Bonet already but there are some other acts that feature fiddlers that I love.


  • GrooveLily

  • The Mammals

  • Natalie MacMaster

  • Ashley MacIsaac.
nate... Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Ooooo yeah.
The Mammals rock.

And just michael merenda solo!
I can see the bunny · 18 years, 4 months ago
I can't believe that I didn't mention Danny Michel, Luke Doucet, Veal, Starling, The Supers or Snow last time. All very much in my cd player these days. Luke's twangy solo album and the new rockin' Veal cd have been fixtures in my cd player for months now.
hkath · 18 years, 4 months ago
I guess we're back on this thread after about a year :D

I've been listening to Royal City, they're a local country-folk band. Very gritty. I mean, most of their songs have at least two mentions of bodily fluids kind of gritty. They're awesome.

I've also (of course) been listening to Dan Bern's newest CD "Fleeting Days", which is three CDs later than the one Lisa posted about earlier in this thread. I know some people have a dislike for Dan, but I can't possibly imagine anyone hearing this CD and not liking him :D

And of course, Ben Folds, Joe Jackson, Sharon Lois & Bram, TMBG, Les Colocs, old Beau Dommage albums, Danny Michel (*explodes in anticipation*), Andy Stochansky, Sleater Kinney, Guster, Simple Minds, Susan Werner, Guster, Crowded House, Cake, Badly Drawn Boy, Rufus Wainwright, The Nields sisters, Vance Gilbert, John Mayer, anything by the Muppets, and you'd probably have to throw in Dashboard Confessional, even though I'm quite ashamed of that one. :)
dave "buh" Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
Yay, someone else who'll still list Joe Jackson. And Crowded House! Here are some of my other suggestions:

Crowded House ("Woodface')
Neil Finn (of Crowded House) DVD "Seven Worlds Collide, Neil Finn & Friends"
Aimee Mann/Til Tuesday (the 3 Til Tuesday albums & Magnolia sdtk)
Squeeze (best album IMHO="Frank".. if you can find it).
Lisa Loeb (swoon! Not sure why she's not part of the "folk" circuit, she could fit in very well when she does solo gigs)
Everything But The Girl ("Amplified Heart" or "Acoustic" ;;. love upright bass in pop music).
Swing out Sister ("Live at the Jazz Cafe")
10000 Maniacs ("Unplugged")/Natalie Merchant ("Live")
The Smithereens ("Especially For You")
The Pretenders ("The Isle of View")
The Posies ("Failure")
Shuggie Otis ("Inspiration Information")

Since I know lots of people are into acapella... check out Sweet Honey In The Rock, not exactly similar to any acapella band ever mentioned on this site but truly amazing.

And, since we're talking about "not the usual suspects".. Jazz! Three albums you must own even if you are not a jazz fan:

Charles Mingus.. Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus
Miles Davis... Kind of Blue
Duke Ellington... Live at the Whitney
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
You are right, Sweet Honey in the Rock is not similar to the other a capella bands; Like DVN they don't suck. They are actually good J
emilie is CRANKY · 18 years, 4 months ago

sorry. i forgot to mention dean friedman. :D

goovie is married! Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
*dance*
Nik Chaikin · 18 years, 4 months ago
Metallica, beatles, other 50's 60's rock
Pacho · 18 years, 4 months ago
i have no idea where to even start *head explodes*

immediately comes to mind: tool, perfect circle, jamiroquai

alix olson, beatles, rolling stones, the clash, the cure, the police, the cars, rem, nirvana, judas priest, steve miller, bryan adams, basement jaxx, annie lennox (i'm totally free-writing, not meaning to imply that adjacent artists are similar in any way), bob marley, sublime, the doors, bto, the guess who, pink floyd, bob dylan, *heart* sass jordan, (and heart), the travelling wilburys, electric light orchestra, tom petty, roy orbison

anything that clapton has touched (clapton is god!!!): yardbirds, bluesbreakers, derek and the dominoes, cream and anything solo or with any other artist. i'm so obsessed with clapton.

billy joel, elton john, KISS (gotta love kiss), nine inch nails, group du jour (relatives as well as awesome artists), white zombie, hanson (shut up), aqua (shut up), ramones (!), crosby stills and nash, crosby stills nash and young, simon and garfunkle, paul simon (but not garfunkle on his own, what a weenie), barenaked ladies (i'm not cool enough for the acronym), (could i mention jamiroquai another half-dozen times?)

smashing pumpkins, led zeppelin (yeah, i've been dazed and confused), bruce springsteen, otis redding, buddy guy, incognito, tlc, foreigner, prodigy

*breath*

ok, i could seriously go on forever. i used to work as a dj, i'm into many many artists. but i usually confine my online rants to jamiroquai and tool, so pretend i only wrote those two ;)
Rachel Marie aka RAI · 18 years, 4 months ago
Actually, I don't listen to her, but I just saw her in concert and opening for her was John Flynn, who rules. You guys should try him.

I've also been listening to Great Big Sea... boyfriend from Newfoundland and all... and lots of songs from musicals.
Will work for anime · 18 years, 4 months ago

no one has mentioned Liam Lynch....you must buy his CD, if anything for the bonus DVD and the music video to "Frankie Forcefield's Theme Song" and his recording session with Ringo.

Gorillaz, Peter Gabriel, Billy Joel (GOD!), Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr and his All Starr Band, Jamiriqui (word to Pacho...They rock and they were cooking with Jamie Oliver, which makes them super cool!), Grosse Pointe Blank soundtrack (quite poosibly the BEST sdtk ever), RENT, Jesus Christ Superstar: Original London Recording, REM, Sting, Bend it Like Beckham soundtrack, EFO: Looking Out the Fishbowl and Three Rooms, TLC, Destiny's Child, Oasis, Mutton Birds, Squeez/Glenn Tilbrook, Men at Work

that's the basic overview ;-)

Pacho Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
I'd heard of the Jamie Oliver episode (that Jamiroquai was on), supposedly someone gets tossed in a pool?, haven't been able to find it online as of yet. Thanks for the mention :)
Will work for anime Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
hee hee...yeah...JK and band toss Jamie Oliver into the pool....after Jamie cooked them all a prime rib/yorkie dinner (yummy) :-) 
Yvonne · 18 years, 4 months ago

AC/DC - This must have something to do with SARSstock.  Although I know Jian likes them so I though I'd check them out.  Hee hee...gotta love Früvous' version of You Shook Me All Night Long...with the banjo and harmonica and everything...it's great!

The Beatles - It's the '60's all over again!

Cadence - They're a really fun a cappella group from Toronto.  My friend and I went to see them pertform at Taste of the Danforth a couple days ago, and we got them to do King of Spain!  o/` ...and now I work at the Pizza Pizza...967-11-11! o/`

Chantal Kreviazuk - Great, powerful voice and talented on the piano.  Her music always sticks in my head.

Alanis Morissette - She rocks.

Martina Sorbara - I keep wanting to play and sing her music yet I don't have the scores.  I hope she comes out with a songbook sometime.

Spirit of the West - Like GBS but from the left coast.  Fun stuff.

Dar Williams - One of the usual suspects, I know, but I'm going to see her in concert for the first time on the 20th.  I just can't get over her lyrics, so much imagery.

And lots more...Arrogant Worms, BNL, DVN, GBS, Nields, TMBG...

Snow In Summer · 18 years, 4 months ago

i'm not going to name everything i listen to 'cause it would just take too long, so how about the last 5 CDs to come into my house in no particular order?

Trigun OST - 1st & 2nd Donut

Norah Jones - Come Away With Me

White Stripes, The - Elephant

junkie XL - Broadcast from the Computer Hell Cabin

U2 - 7 (it's the remix EP from Target... i'm a completist, shoot me)

Gordondon son of Ethelred · 18 years, 4 months ago
Did anyone find anyone good at the emerging artist showcase? That's how I found Girlyman this year. I already knew WA9. I found Zoe Lewis there in 2001.

I didn't see much of it but I heard George Wurzbach who I already knew. He's in Modern Man a group that is as funny as DVN, great praise indeed.
goovie is married! Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
george wurzbach was really the only one i saw and enjoyed...but like gordon said, i already knew his stuff.

and girlyman and wa9 were in the emerging artist showcase *last* year. they and rachael davis were the *most wanted* artists of 2002, and appeared in this year's *most wanted* song swap. but everybody except gordon already had that straight. :)

the general consensus seemed to be that this was an off year for the showcase, but i'd love to know if anyone had a different experience. mmm...new music.
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
OK how sad is this. I of course knew what year girlyman and WA9 were there and originally said "last year." I then felt it was less confusing to write about Zoe by saying the year and was going to do the same thing for WA9 but instead changed "last" to "this." I need help.
Jºnªthªn · 18 years, 4 months ago
The White Stripes are one of my faves lately, although I've been transferring files to an MP3 player so i've been listening to a little bit of everything - lot's of 80's stuff.
John J. Ryan · 18 years, 4 months ago

My non-the-usual-suspects:

Spiraling, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Dream Theater, Billy Joel, Pietasters.

Zach · 18 years, 4 months ago
Has anyone heard of Corleone?
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
I know Don Vito Corleone. (Cue Godfather Theme)
Prinut · 18 years, 4 months ago

I've been listening Hootie and The Blowfish, Blues Traveler, The Wallflowers, and Counting Crows lately.  And of course the beloved BNL...amazing

Speaking of Counting Crows...WOOHOO I can't wait until the concert tomorrow! yayness!

eep! I almost forgot...and Tonic..

dave "buh" Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
The VH1 Storytellers from Counting Crows is just amazing, I think.
Erato · 18 years, 4 months ago
Sarah Slean, Vienna Tang, Rachael Davis, Girlyman, Over the Rhine, Joan Osbourne, Grey Eyed Glances.
goovie is married! Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
yay vienna teng! but you knew i'd say that. :)
Gordondon son of Ethelred Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
No comment on Grey Eye Glances? The first thing I ever sent you was a CD of theirs.
Erato · 18 years, 4 months ago
whee. :) someone else that knows this wonderful band. I finally got to hear them this year at singer-songwriter weekend.
Rachel Beck · 18 years, 4 months ago
I loved 69 Love Songs, but I don't own it and have to borrow. Ditto for Low, a sadsack band from Duluth. Also in heavy rotation: Pet Shop Boys, Honeydogs, Beausoleil, Robert Johnson, Jeff Buckley, Prince, Lauryn Hill.
goovie is married! Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
i don't need to borrow it anymore, either...neal and i finally have our own copy. :)
oh, and andrew bird.
nate... · 18 years, 4 months ago
Beastie Boys, Propellerheads, Fatboy Slim and the Dust Brothers.

Who's with me?!
J · 18 years, 4 months ago
Im very much into The Eels, Elvis Costello, XTC, Broken Social Sceen, Metric, Neds Atomic Dustbin, I could actually go on forever

and I don't think I like any of the usual suspects anymore
Gordondon son of Ethelred · 18 years, 4 months ago
Nobody mentioned Batnose! Or are they a usual suspect?
emilie is CRANKY Back · 18 years, 4 months ago
well, batnose is the world's greatest rock and roll band, so they *must* be a usual suspect. ;)

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